Ospreys V Ulster Sat Oct 10 @5.15pm.

If you are good enough you are big enough even in today's game. The likes of Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe prove that in spades. Hopefully Harri Morgan will as well in time. As you rightly point out Luke Morgan is not in the same post code as some of those names as a player. The only bit I disagree with is you just cannot shovel back foot ball on to a winger, even one better than Morgan. You have to get front foot ball or you cannot attack properly.

I am in total agreement with you there. I think given the conditions for both matches and the need not to get off to the horrific continual losing start of last year, caution was probably required. The big issue facing them now is that if no new 10 rides to the rescue, it may be necessary to take a very big chance on young Thomas starting at 10, to at least attack the line and Myler being used from the bench as a closer. Glasgow will be severely weakened in a fortnight's time by international calls. More so than us and this may be the time to be bold with selection.

I hope you have that saved, because if he isn’t given the desperate funds needed for a 8+10 like you pointed out, it will just be a repeat of the last few seasons.

I agree with your thoughts on Lake. He is going to be very good but he should not be near the side until he sorts his throwing. I might be tempted to try King at 7 keeping Morris at 8 and if Cory Allen is fit he would make far more sense than TTW on the bench. I also think Venter is a better player than RMW but something seems to be going on there.

@Fiddler I forgot about Venter as he has not featured for ages.

I like you desperately want to see quality attacking rugby. We just differ as to how you achieve it. You suggested it can be achieved by creative centres letting loose Luke Morgan. My disagreement with you is that may have been the case 30 years ago, but now you create attacking plays from getting over the gain line quickly and delivering speed of ball and big strong wings who can defend and be used as carriers are very useful in achieving good rugby.

Don't think it is that simplistic in the context we find ourselves. The vast majority of the teams we face have far bigger budgets than us and have players who win collisions. You cannot create space against the line speed of modern defences if you don't win the collisions at the break-down. Given that it is far more important for an Osprey wing to be able to defend than attack because he will do a lot more defending than he will get quality attacking chances. Donkeys are generally worse and therefore more exposed at defending than they are attacking.

Precisely but we have to face the fact we don't have big ball carriers or a dominant pack.

Morgan is one of the weakest defenders in pro rugby.

From what I understand we were but the need to get everyone to accept a pay cut put those plans on hold. We were turned down by Fearns and Manu earlier this summer.

No we don't have enough good players to match them. That is the problem. This is a recruitment job more than it is a coaching job. A decent all year round 8 and 10 would transform this side, along with recognising the likes of Luke Morgan and Cracknell should be nowhere near the 23 absent an injury plague.

@Fiddler I seem to remember King playing 7 in judgement day a few seasons ago and did really well. The opposition had warbuton, Jenkins and navidi too so no mean feat there either.

@Jake Bullet I think King is the most natural fit for 7 if we decide to keep Morris at 8.

@Fiddler Something different has to be tried. If the status quo remains, it’s just going to be a repeat of last season.

I don't think any line out in world rugby could function if Dewi Lake was throwing into it.

@ospreysfanforum It was good attempt by Protheroe to recover but I think he got it down when he rolled over. I was surprised by TTW's lack of gas chasing back on that try.

@Fiddler Are you 100% sure though because I did not see the grounding and I don't believe the ref did either. However, that did not cost us the game but it did potentially cost us a losing BP.

@ospreysfanforum Having looked again it looked down to me on the reverse angle. I think he probably should have asked any reason not to award because there was some doubt but on the reverse angle it looks like the ball hit the ground after he rolled over.

@Fiddler I kept on noticing how narrow Luke Morgan was and then he had to turn and chase after his man.

You have to add Stockdale to that as he was too big and strong for us as well.

The Ospreys were good last week but poor this week. Too many players had off nights and we missed far too many tackles. I can only imagine if we had an 8 like Coetzee and a 15 like Stockdale (that is no sleight on Morgan Morris and Dan Evans) but those two players made all the difference tonight, We weren't helped by Webb having a stinker and few if any of our subs had any sort of positive impact on the game, least of all Dewi Lake who gave away at least 4 turnovers at the lineout.