Glasgow Warriors V Ospreys Saturday at 5.15pm

@daves disco I would much prefer any of my sports teams to win in the last second with last ditch points or goal than I would enjoy a brilliant match and LOSE.

I do get what you are saying and that there does need to be an element of entertainment in the pro sports industry but not at the cost of results. Coaches and managers' jobs depend on their results.

I think you need to build a team/squad that is capable of winning games first and foremost, no matter how, and then the better performances should naturally follow. Take Exeter Chiefs for example - they do not play the most expansive rugby but for a while they were winning everything. Success breeds success and then you can sign better quality players which in turn increases the skills on display which increases the entertainment value.

@daves disco unfortunately the professional game is about results first and entertainment second. Would you prefer it if we scored 4 tries every game but lost 38-28 or something like that or if we won every game?

We do not have the budgets of French or English or Irish teams so we have to make do with what we have and make the best out of it - that is the truth of the matter.

@daves disco were we so bad when we beat Dragons, Cardiff, Benneton, Munster and Ulster?

I am not denying that there are issues with the team - defence can be penetrated all too easily and we lack attacking precision but we are far from s..t as you put it. A side that is as bad as you suggest would not have won the games I mentioned earlier - yes, we lack consistency but it certainly has not been all bad.

@ospreysfanforum Have to agree with OFF on this, we've not been quite good in quite a few games, it's consistency where we've fallen away.

I also disagree with a lot on this topic, about the reason for this defeat and also the Connacht game, even though the defence has cost these games it's the individual tackling errors that have cost us. Some of the tackling was of schoolboy standard and primarily in this match by players that have been some of our better ones.

Yes we form up after a few phases much too narrow and some players don't have confidence with players either side of them Watkin and Protheroe are guilty of this failing.

One player who would make a huge difference to this failing would be the return of Lydiate, there has been talk for weeks that he's been ahead of Tips and North, why haven't we seen him?

@ospreysfanforum we are at the moment after all the welsh region further up the league table so god help the others Davies disco 😃😃

Indeed. Why can Booth make a throw away comment on availability in a post match interview and not tell fans who was unavailable when the team is named. I would also like to know if Pugh is still coaching the defence or has completely left the building.

@Fiddler If Pugh is still around, then he needs to do a “Taione” (apologies, I couldn’t resist)! With regards to player availability or lack thereof, it is really damaging by not disclosing the info.

@Fiddler exactly. I can forgive picking the players he had no choice but to pick for the Scarlets game but if he had more players available for Glasgow and chose not to pick them, then that has to be quizzed.

It is interesting that not only have we been not been linked with anybody but none of our players have been linked with anybody else. There is an article in the Argus where Dean Ryan says he is looking to england for players because other than Sanjay there appears to be very little player movement between the regions. Booth said in the pre match conference he was hoping to recruit two or three players and that recruitment would have to be strategic whatever that means

Just seen that Rhys Webb was in the crowd at Bath v Worcester today at the Rec and Daily Mail says AWJ signed on for another year.

Which players look good for Wales but not for us?

I would have thought being rational is superior to being irrational. If you have a constructive suggestion make it. Do you honestly believe teams ignore 3 or 4 man overlaps. They may have players in space but the opposition defence has generally numbered up agaoinst those players unless they are using the Ospreys defensive system.

@daves disco we are all upset, pissed off and down about our recent run of form but we have seen an improvement in the calibre of player we recruit (North, Cuthbert, Jac Morgan & T Francie etc -most of whom signed because of the Booth vision) and at times (Munster & Ulster) we have produced some decent defensive performances.

We have to give Booth time to correct the deficiencies in the set up - defence coach being the main one and give him at least one more recruitment round.

As people on here know I don't shy away from criticising players and coaches and last night was a desperately poor performance. There is a lot of very questionable criticism in that post though. Glasgow are far better than an average side as anybody who watch them beat Exeter by two scores just before Chrsitmas would recognise. Beard is a Test Lion and without him stopping an excellent Glasgow maul we would have been in even bigger trouble. They have an excellent line out and maul which better teams than us have not picked off. I don't think you can have watched much of Glasgow to make those comments. They had broken through us numerous times before Watkin was taken off.

That post says to me you mistakenly thought we were better than we were by grinding out some close wins in low scoring games and are lashing out at any name that comes into your mind. We were on our knees when Booth arrived and yes he has made mistakes but he needs at least two recruitment rounds before making judgements which are seemingly based on you thinking a few narrow home victories had made us into a good side

We all all hurting but let's be a bit rational.

@Allthewaythere - chaos rugby is hardly what you would call nice things...

@ospreysfanforum I get that he’s not gonna slate the boys straight after the match, but being disingenuous also doesn’t help.

We did do some nice things but we don't have any form of consistent cohesion so we cannot put opponents under huge stress. We are very predictable which means defences know where we are going and stop us recycling any kind of fast ball. As the late great Trevor Bailey once said on Test Match special. The odd beatifully timed cover drive to the boundary does not win Test Matches.

@Fiddler those coaching deficiencies and the obvious glaring mistakes by some of our usual better players contributed massively to that scoreline. Glasgow did not have to do all that much to score against us - just wait for and capitalise on our mistakes.

@ospreysfanforum Glasgow are a very good side at home. Do not forget they saw of Exeter comfortably before Christmas. The problem we have is you will always make mistakes in defence. The system has to have contingency for mistakes. You cannot have a system where any missed tackle costs you huge yardage. Tackles get missed by good teams at the highest level but they have cover options and speed. Against properly designed defensive systems one first up mistake does not lead to inevitable scores. We have allowed a Sevens coach with no experience of ever designing a pro defensive system to put in a system that has no safeguards.

@Fiddler completely agree about our defence. Hopefully we can employ someone who can put in a system that organises the defence with the safeguards we need.

If we’re constantly serving up such bile on a constant basis, there is no way we will survive a cull.

@Allthewaythere Picking up the tab creates negotiation opportunities. That is what private equity is all about. The very interesting question will be how the union can justify private companies putting up capital when they cannot get private capital to invest in the side they own and it sits on a very valuable and realisable asset.

@Fiddler Can you honestly see the buffoons at the WRU ceding any sort of power? They’d rather ruin the game by cutting the numbers of team before they did that.

@Allthewaythere Yes I can see it depending on how events unfold.

@brodyrbach It is very rare to see the likes of Protheroe and Morris make so many mistakes in the one game. However, there are massive gaps in our coaching around the breakdown and in defence as well as having little or no attack to speak of unless it is a piece of broken field running by one of the wingers.

@brodyrbach This has not been his best game by far but the same can be said for much of the 23.