Glasgow Warriors V Ospreys Saturday at 5.15pm

That isn't the case for me. Wins count. A loss is a loss, is a loss.

A 3 - 0 win and progression in Europe tops a 39 - 41 loss and exit all day long. For me.

Yes I absolutely would prefer it, we need to be entertained or else sport is pointless and only serves the people actively involved in it. We remember scintillating tries and great skills, but hardly ever remember a match where we win 9-6 on penalties.

We beat those teams yes, but even our wins were turgid affairs.

I don’t agree, being rational is not always superior. You can be rational all you want but when something is s..t, it’s s..t and being rational would make a reason for it when there clearly isn’t one, we are just s..t!

The most pertinent question that needs to be asked and answered is were the last 2 games' selection based purely on who was available because of Covid-19? We know that for the Scarlets game we were down to 26 players but what was the story for the Glasgow game?

I wasn't going to post as I am fed up of saying the same thing but once again we struggle to defend against sides that play a fast ,dynamic brand of rugby. We cannot react quickly enough in attack or defence our only option is the box kick which usually leads to the ball being run back at us. We need busier half backs, RMW offered nothing yesterday and the two centres don't seem to have an attacking bone in their bodies.

We need to pull our finger out of our arse on the recruitment front - absolutely shocking that we haven’t been linked with anyone at this point.

I agree but even if you get Cheslin Kolbe, we will still kick the ball away the moment we get possession. Why I am so angry is because the actual game of rugby is being dragged down with this awful formula that involves box kicking, caterpillars, forwards trying to score from 2 metres when the entire opposition team is massed to stop you whilst blatantly ignoring 3/4 players waiting out in acres of space, reset scrums, and much more. On top of that we have players who look amazing playing for Wales but donkeys when they churn out for their regions. The whole game is on the line here and people are really fed up. Read other posters comments, they are echoing the same sentiments as me, being rational is going to get us nowhere, sure there are many decent excuses, but at what stage do the excuses run too thin? The issues in our play are quite clear to see and many others have put it so much better than I can. Time to innovate to save the game and if it cant be done then the game is dead.

The worst case scenario is currently unfolding. Apart from scrum and goalkicking we have no aspect which isn’t down there with the worst in Europe.

Worst defence

Worst attack

Worst depth

Realistically, we put some of the worst players in professional rugby on the field week in, week out. That’s not an issue we can solve. We don’t have the budget, we don’t have the nous, we don’t have the personnel.

Yes except that we have been saying the same things every season for the past 6/7 seasons, new coach , same old !

Talking about recruitment rounds, we seem to be behind the curve once more compared to the other three. The only “news” I’ve seen with regards to retention/recruitment is on AWJ. Has anyone seen or heard anything more. I’d say now would be a pretty good time for the O’s to share some good news if there was some.

Nobody can argue now that we are a truly awful rugby team. We are clueless and I don’t even mind when teams beat us with well organised and constructive game plans but we are so easily beaten by very average sides. Scarlets and Glasgow are neither World Beaters but they both were clever enough to wait for our mistakes and pick us off with ease, like taking candy from a baby. We have become an embarrassment and Booth has run out of ideas, motivation, nous. We are not near to being the best region, and our play is painful to watch. I genuinely watch the game though my fingers waiting for the next cock up. Beard and Griffiths both look like bambi on ice and neither have anywhere near enough aggression, RMW was way too passive and stood respectfully to one side allowing Ali Price an easy control of the put in. Nobody once challenged on their lineout which looked easy to pick off at times and Glasgow knew we wouldn’t challenge. Most of the tackling I witnessed was high and easily shrugged off, there were doglegs in our defence, as well as them being too far apart. Taking off Watkin was the signal for Glasgow to stroll through our defence, and don’t get me started on Collins. We should all be in a world of pain over the way we have failed to deliver on our promise this season and there is not one hint that it will get better because waiting for AWJ,Tips and North is not the answer, none of those guys have won matches for us in the last few seasons, they are Team Wales show ponies. Booth has been supposedly developing players to take their place but really he looks like he is just praying for their return.

Apparently Booth thinks we did some nice things in attack today.….

I thought there was some excellent analysis on Premier sports. They pointed out that the defensive system is overly aggressive with no contingency if an individual misses a tackle which means you give up huge yardage. It seeems to have no zone awareness and many times two or three players sell themselves and cannot adjust laterally. They also rightly pointed out that if you cannot retain the ball for any length of time then you will just have to make too many tackles. Our attack creates no ball carrying over the gain line and we are often completely outnumbered at the breakdown as the defence seems to have more idea that our attacking players where we are going. The final moment when Ashley came on tried a one up charge got smashed back like a rag doll and they just sent a player in for an easy penalty summed up the absurdity of our attack. That is not blaming Ashley just the absurdity of what our attack is trying to achieve.

Given we are mid season we have to start with a defensive coach who can design a system that is less easily punctured but we also have to accept that if you can only score 19 points a game you are not going to win as often as you need to.

I honestly don’t see a way forward.

The butchery of Welsh rugby’s finances by Drakeford will force a discussion about cuts. I’m pessimistic winning the political battle that might come.

Not a shock at all to see us playing so poorly. We’re one of the worst sides in Europe and we’re going nowhere.

Looking back on my posts through this game, I have counted some 13 individual errors that have indirectly or directly led to Glasgow scores. That is simply unsustainable.

One thing that Fussell said has worried me and that was when he was asked how we would get the likes of L Morgan and Protheroe in the game and his reply was to take advantage of the chaos rugby after a mistake by the other team. That is a question that needs to be asked and answered.

Ospfan I take your response on board but we are supposed to be professional players.

Everybody makes errors but ours are so basic so poor and very very elementary it beggars belief how are they being coached especially our backs.

Another restart mistake leads to a Glasgow lineout and yet another try. 38-19 with 6 minutes to play.

Are these just mistakes or is there something bigger afoot?

Really poor from Morris leading to another Glas try.

Try Ospreys, too little too late. Dan Evans crosses.

A good charge down by Aubrey almost leads to an Ospreys try but the Glasgow defence get back and win a penalty that allows them to clear.

We can't defend and we can' attack this is another very poor show.

Our season is disintegrating before our eyes.

Really what is the point of Brock?

When our scrum is under pressure our game falls apart.

ANOTHER missed tackle and it leads to another try. 29-12 with the simple conversion to come.

This is really concerning now. We really are a very poor team, and with our squad and coaching setup, I can’t see a way out of it.

Poor from the officials - missing a clearly not straight lineout and then calling Protheroe for a knock on that went backwards.

Lake on for Elvis and Aubrey on for RMW on the hour.

Unfortunately, we don’t look like scoring a try. Forwards competing but backs have no cutting edge at all and have missed some tackles.

Luckily the AR is paying attention and calls the obvious forward pass (the ref, right there does not) and the Ospreys escape conceding a fourth try. Thomas and Botha on for Smith and Francis. 55 minutes on the clock.

Our "guarding" at the rucks has been woefully bad and that has directly contributed to several linebreaks. This one results in another try as the Ospreys miss yet another first up tackle. 24-12 and a mountain to climb now.

Protheroe has somewhat redeemed himself with a turnover as Glasgow look for their third try but L Morgan clears to touch. Glasgow come again but the Ospreys clear again.

Another penalty given away - we are on the wrong side of the ref here.

Ospreys start with the second half with a good take from Morris but soon give away a penalty and then another one and another one in the same passage of play.

Half time 17-12.

We have gifted them 3 linebreaks, two of which have led to tries but the boot of Anscombe has kept us in the game. Collins was rather unlucky not to re-gather Anscombe's chip over the defence and L Morgan was unlucky not to get on the end of his chip but that apart we have seen little of the Ospreys' attack.

Nicky Smith has Ferguson at the scrum but is not being rewarded by the referee who is practically begging the Glasgow prop to stay up.

We have to stop missing tackles and gifting them linebreaks, luckily for the Ospreys Morris wins a turnover penalty and the Ospreys clear to touch.

I do wish we would occasionally compete at their lineouts...

Good work from Anscombe and L Morgan leads to a penalty just 5 metres from the Glasgow line. Posts are called and Anscombe steps up - 17-12 after 30 minutes.

The conversion is good 17-9. That was such a poor try to give away and not Protheroe's best moment.

More falling off tackles costs the Ospreys again and Glasgow score their second try. 15-9 with the conversion to come.

Anscombe with his third penalty 10-9 after 26 minutes. We have struggled at the restart thus far.

A couple of missed tackles costs the Ospreys and after several phases, Glasgow score the first try of the game. 8-6 with the conversion to come, which is in off the post 10-6.

Decent start by the Ospreys 3-6 after 20 minutes

Will Hickey would be my Back Row replacement if he was available?

Josh Thomas at 10 and Anscombe at 15 improves the side beyond measure.

Booth has had a poor stretch since the Rainbow Cup. Worth monitoring.

Hard to comment on the quality of the selection without understanding availability. I am guessing that Webb Roots and Kieran are unavailable. There are some really ropey players in that 23.

I’m really, really trying not to get disheartened by Booth and some of his decisions,but it’s really getting hard to try and follow his methodology.

Weak Link Theory going to be proven correct again.